''uhh, i noticed words like....DAMN''!?
what the hell, these guys are REALLY still in 1950 arent they!
Oz
brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
''uhh, i noticed words like....DAMN''!?
what the hell, these guys are REALLY still in 1950 arent they!
Oz
i got to thinking today & you know what i think the single biggest issue effecting apostates are.
its they cannot unite and this is what gives the watchtower the upper hand.
what needs to happen (and quite honestly i don't think it will)they all have to come under one common body.
No Joe.
Did you miss what happened when some (since left) members here decided to do just what you speak off?
Trainwreck...
Oz
not trying to sound like a conpiracy nut...but just read this article:.
http://www.moneynews.com/archives/trump-aftershock-american-economy/2012/11/06/id/462985?promo_code=103fc-1.
is this just a lot of talk?
I would say most governments are bankrupt already, trading while insolvent, borrowing more than they can can repay. One day the creditors will come calling... I read an interesting report the other day, that outlined that most if not all civilizations have a life span of 250 years on average It is niave to think that our current crop of 'civilization' should last longer than any other. Sooner or later we will be taken over by another, wiped out or assimilated... By whom? Thats a matter for much conjecture i guess! Oz
sometime back when the cover of the wt study edition returned to just a tower, and the km's and wt's for the month were color matched... there were rumors in the spanish language extj forum that the wts was using a german pr contractor to update its image.. the internet being the worst of all evils for the wts would they consider using a service like brandyourself, reputationchanger.com or reputation.com to whitewash its image online?.
is there any evidence of them getting help from a pr company or rep-improvement agency?.
that's right, and it's great!
i don't know exactly why because he hasn't turned apostate and still seems to believe jw things.
i don't feel comfortable in asking him why he doesn't go to meetings anymore for some reason, or find out what he believes and if the things i've told him bout ttatt influenced his decision.
That sounds great!
and remember that TERRY said:
Mr T. O’BRIEN
— People are free to be Jehovah’s Witnesses, or if at any time they wish to discontinue forwhatever reason, that is a personal choice. If the person simply decides to become inactive and no longer
associate with Jehovah’s Witnesses, then they are just viewed as they were before they became one of
Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Just dont do anything 'apostate' and you can throw this in any snooping elders face...its a matter of public record...
once we found out we were all witnesses, we all hugged.
now we just had to see if our kingdom hall was still standing.
when we came to the hall we had such a huge shock.. there were so many people there.
Why didnt the writer mention that Brother Daniel drove up to the convention in his 1928 V16 Cadillac?
Perhaps Prince David was using it that day...
Oz...off to clean the puke off his keyboard
The JWs will follow the pattern of small towns and localities throughout Australia (if not the world)
In the 1940s our little towns were full of life, few had cars and most rode a horse. Hell the farmers in my district did not transition from draft horse to tractor till into the 1960s
By the 1980s these little towns of 100 people were all but gone save for a pub and a store and ten years on most of that had gone as well. A drive through country australia reveals a host of ghost towns, populated by 10 people and no hotels or shops...they all got boarded up years ago as cars made travelling further faster the norm. Nobody needed to stay in these little places, there was no work, the farmers couldnt afford to employ them and so the towns died.
I feel its a pretty good analogy of religion too.
Our local town lost its minister last year and the church didn't replace him...the country is full of churches that are now homes as the only attendees in the towns are oldies who have been 'faithful' since they were born. Their children were less inclined and the grandchildren have no godly interest at all. The manse is rented out now and the church sees a travelling minister once a month.
Jehovah's Witnesses will go the same way in country australia. One day, vibrant congs in towns of 10,000 or less will be nothing more than a familiy or two of old originals or those who bought a cheap house in a dead town and can't move out. The kids will have gone to the city and got busy trying to make living and the grandkids will bail the religion at 14.
One day, the run down kingdom hall that was built by the locals long before quickbuilds and loans from the society were the norm will be host to a visiting speaker once or twice a month and the rest of the time the 'congregation' will be kept together by a handfull of old sisters valiantly following the watchtower study and going door to door for a couple of hours.
The ethnic congregations, although in larger cities are essentially, a small town in themselves. There may be only a few thousand of whatever ethnic group surrounded by tens of thousands of regular australians (if there is such a thing now) Even these ethnic groups will slowly die as its only the oldies that still dont speak english keeping them going. All the 'clubs' for ethnic groups have opened their doors to anyone for a dollar because they know if they dont change the 'club' will be gone in just a few years.
The difference is that the JWs wont change for a million dollars and there lays their demise.
Oz (sorry for the log post...i got all literary for a while)
http://www.watchman.org/blog/index.php/watchtower-society-changes-doctrine-of-1914-again/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed%3a+watchmanfellowship+%28watchman+fellowship%29.
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not sure how to show the link properly..
''Finally, we examined why Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation''.
well well well....now they have to revise the proclaimers book.
Oz
jw leaks has published the 17 page official transcript of the appearance by watchtower bible and tract society of australia and jehovah's witnesses before the "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious and other organisations" conducted on 11 april 2013 in victoria, australia.. http://jwleaks.org/australia/.
quote from rachel van witsen, legal counsel for watchtower bible and tract society of australia and jehovah's witnesses, in reply to who is responsible for reporting child abuse within the religion of jehovah's witnesses... .
ms van witsen at the moment, because there is no mandatory reporting for ministers of religion in victoria, then the victim, who has very often had their dignity removed, is then put in the drivers seat.. .
DD...
it is BOTH! The watchtower trots out whichever will suit its needs at the time.
To the law, they present the baptised merely as 'members' and elders as 'ministers'.
What needs to be done, and i am sure that it will be done, is that the people inquring of Terry and co get the TRUTH about the WT minister game.
Then we shall see many many more 'ministers' unveiled as monsters beside the two Terry likes to speak of.
Oz
you might remember last weekend i posted up some info from my friend that had the opportunity to attend the zone overseer talk in japan.
that thread is here: http://jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/251038/1/hot-off-the-press-zo-talk-in-japan.
well today my friend forwarded me this little gem.
Turd on legs